20 comments on “So, Who Looks Better In Big Horseback Riding Pants?

  1. Yeah, they look pretty sporty in that clip. I was actually thinking when I posted this that I thought I’d seen Madhubala in riding pants somewhere and that this would certainly complicate the contest…
    P.S. I was also thinking of Nargis, though again, I’m not quite sure where…

  2. LOL @ big horseback riding pants!!!!!! *falls off chair laughing*

    Like pajamas, jodhpurs are a gift from the Indians originally :-) We have so many things to be thankful to them for!

  3. I confess that the humor in my term for these pants was only half intentional, because I had genuinely forgotten the official name for them. (I don’t think most people call these “jodhpurs” in ads and stuff these days either, at least not in our area – they’re just “riding pants.”) Just as maybe I once knew the real name for these, maybe I once knew their origin. Thanks for reminding us… So, I guess Indian film directors have at least as much of a right to put their characters in jodhpurs as anyone. :) Though after seeing the scenes from both Aan and Amar, I’m wondering if Mehboob Khan had a particular fondness for them.

  4. You know, I have to change my mind, Nadira wins! I LOVE her! Perhaps even more than Vyjayanthi. Plus she’s a Jewess, and my inner Jewess favors her, since there aren’t so many in Bollywood, hai na? Have you seen Nadira in her later years in “Julie” where she plays the Catholic mother? I think you’d like her in that. But of course in Shree 420 (1956) she really steals the show with her evil sexy ways.

  5. Hello, comrade – lal salaam!

    So you have an inner Jewess who favors Nadira? LOL.

    I guess I am supposed to be a Jew right on the surface due to my ethnic heritage, but sometimes I forget. Still, if anyone ever asks me whether any of “my people” ever made it in Bollywood, I can proudly point to Nadira. And Sohrab Modi. Oh, wait a minute – he only played a Jew in a movie. But look, we also had David Abraham (and he even played a nice guy most of the time!)…

    I haven’t seen Julie yet, but it’s definitely on my list.

  6. You know ‘they’ control the industry. ;) Oh wait, that’s Hollywood. Wow! I didn’t know that David was one of the chosen people, I guess I didn’t look at his name closely. :) I LOVE David. I’ve seen him in so many parts. He always brings a sense of calm to the screen, “ah good David’s here, the movie can really start now, everything is in control,” I think. I think the last thing I saw him in was Baton Baton Mein (1979).

  7. I’m not sure what the latest thing I saw him in was, but I was just looking at some of the songs from Bha-Bhai again, and I thought he was great there as Nimmi’s father! Now that I recall, he was also great as Padmini’s father in Amar Deep. He was great as everybody’s father! Or uncle…

    He’s also fun to watch in the scenes that I’ve seen from Boot Polish. I guess that was his most famous role? I really have to pick up a copy with subs one of these days.

  8. Nargis really rocked the big horseback riding pants on occasion too! I think they were popular around that time because of the British hangover they still had :-)

  9. @ memsaab, “British hangover.” Great way to describe it. I’ve always thought too that some NRIs strong dislike of Indian Films is a type of snobbery and really only another form of the “British hangover.”

  10. Bawa, I couldn’t find a post from you about a film with Nadira. I did find a mention from you (thank you) in a comment you made to a post about Nadia. You have some links there and I need to get back to that. Unfortuntely, I have been a bit overwhelmed with a couple of things going on this week not related to all this stuff that we love, so I will have to get back to your comment and those likely great links tomorrow or the next day.

    If you wrote something else at some post related to Nadira, please give me a hint of where I can find it!

  11. No it was Nadia, but excuse my excitement and got all the names mixed-up!

    When you have looked at it, I will get back to you to tell you the reason why.
    Meanwhile, I do hope your week goes by smoothly and everything falls into place.

  12. Bawa, thanks for the good wishes regarding my week. And what a perfect opportunity you’ve given me to describe what’s been going on a little? A couple of major things have been going on… I have been struggling to complete revisions on a book that I wrote with someone sometime back (revisions requested by a publisher), but the collaboration is a bit more tense these days than it used to be. (The subject of the book has nothing to do with Bollywood. :) Maybe I’ll get more into it another time. Right now, I get exhausted if I even try to describe it.) At the same time, somebody I know offered me an opportunity to share an apartment that in some ways would be better than the place I have now. But I have my doubts about whether I should have taken it, because my expenses will go up a llittle while my (mostly un)employment circumstances (like many people’s) will not improve for sometime (if ever?). So, I probably can’t afford this. And the present place wasn’t so bad; I was actually just getting used to this airless and smelly little room. (Right next to a shared kitchen, where some people make very smelly food. But one can get used to it…) But, in any event, it looks as though I’ll be moving again! (I thought by July 1, but maybe by July 15 now.) Let’s hope the wireless Internet service works just as well in the new place, so I won’t have any trouble getting right back to my real life after the move is completed. :)


    P.S. Yes, I took a good excuse to discuss my personal doings a little, in a comment this time instead of a blog post. It’s probably better that way. Though it might throw some people off especially when they see the message listed… What does all this have to do with big horseback riding pants?

  13. Bawa, I started to look at these sites that you linked to. It was interesting, but then when I tried to click on a song from a 1944 movie listed in one of these, my Windows Media player kind of got jammed, and I had to restart and do a lot of waiting before it got better again. It could be coincidence, or there could be something bad there. Anyway, if you’re still reading this thread and want to talk about the reasons you were excited about all this, go ahead; I am curious to hear…

  14. The songs are in mp3 and play in Quick Time on mine, no problem.

    The reason I was so excited is that the collection with the person who lived in Peshawar, Allahdad Khan, was one of a kind in the subcontinent- starting from 1905, this guy had 78 rpms of many many many films, classical, non-flim music recordings, more than any other source. From time to time, there would be an article in the news about it. Then there was the news that someone was finally going to digitalise it, but as the newspaper article reported, he died before it could be begun.
    Everyone thought it would be lost or it was not known what would happen to it. As far as I can ascertain, somebody in Australia bought/inherited it and it is now being digitalised and uploaded onto this website. There are the entire songs of a film, plus posters, record covers, stills from the movies, that are also on the website along with the songs.
    Besides this, they have other collectors too one Narsingh Agnish, who has nearly 300 groups uploaded, starting from about 1942.
    Neither of the two have been uploaded completely so far.
    There are other things like unreleased songs from ANDAZ, or MUGHAL-E-AZAM., etc. odd things contributed by individuals.

    The other reason for my excitement was the singer Kamla Jharia. As I explained, Dad is very fond of her and very little is available of her, even All India Radio only plays about 2-3 of the same songs sometimes.
    And I have been trying to find a whole album of her for years. The classic music club in California seemed to have one, but they never responded to any mail I sent.

    So now I come across this-am going to india next-week- and find 4 WHOLE ALBUMS of her with about 15 songs each, they are in mp3 so i can easily convert them to an audio CD and I present my Dad with them! (Plus any other forgotten singer from his time)…isn’t that exciting?? Will let you know of his reaction :))

    I hope this explains my state….

  15. Seeing as the comments are nowhere near horse riding pants, Richard, I take the opportunity to wish you a speedy end to the corrections- the most painful part of writing and never enough of it done where it should be (some current hot novelists come to mind).

    Hope the apartment thing works out, home should be a place ones looks forward to in one way or another. As for employment, that is hard to figure out in the US: the way things work in this respect are so different in the US as far as my limited experience (through friends) is.

    Best of luck, internet this summer shall be dodgy but I shall try to keep up, otherwise it will be back with a load to catch up on in Sept!

  16. Bawa, thanks for the good wishes. Hope you don’t disappear from the Internet too soon because I have yet to catch up on a few of your comments.

    Regarding employment, I’m not sure what differences you might be referring to. Versus much of western Europe, I believe there is less here in the way of workers’ rights and less power in organized labor; there is less in the way of a social safety net for the unemployed (though we’ve gotten a slight improvement in Unemployment compensation, thanks to political pressures due to the economic crisis), much less (that is, zero) health coverage for unemployed or part-time employed people here (vs. coverage for everyone in western Europe), and probably less protection in the U.S. against the whims and biases of potential employers (regardless of what may be on the books). Since this is a blog about a lot of stuff from India, I should add that I suppose in many respects most workers and unemployed people there face a tougher or more austere situation (with huge differences depending on state, community, and especially class), though the gap might be closing a little. (I still have a fantasy about being able to follow one of my lost jobs to India. Given current realities, that seems no less unlikely than my being able to save up for a decent tourist’s journey over there.)

  17. The last thought is not far out in today’s world; who knows!

    I have only been 2 times to the US plus friends/relatives that have moved there, but there were some things that did strike us (absolutely no scientific value at all).

    1- Indian friends seem to find it relatively easy to find jobs compared to here and they always boast a bit about their earnings, but a lot of them seem to have 2-3 jobs, something very rare here, at least in “proper jobs”.

    2-Proper jobs here would include things like gas station attendant/ bus driver-very good job here-/cashiers/, to say nothing about anything to do with public services, from a telephonist to a porter in the town hall: I got the impression that many of these would not allow you to earn a decent living (holidays..) in the US on their own (could be totally wrong). This maybe due to min wages and collective negotiations or public service employees having decent fixed salary grades here.
    It might also be that your taxes entitle you to health care and education, and that maybe takes away a big portion of one’s income in the US? Not basic education, but the fact that you don’t have to save for higher education?

    3- We were also fascinated by how many people worked in very many tiny businesses (3 chaps to slowly run a hot-dog stand in the Zoo, for instance), when here a single waiter will manage all the tapas/coffees/beers/ etc etc or maybe 2 or 3 in a large place with outside tables. On the other hand, they are usually professional waiters, in the sense that it is a career choice. I can only guess that it is relatively cheap for the employer to employ people and that wages are not that high, otherwise it would not make economic sense.

    4- No tipping here at all, not even in restaurants, whereas I understood that it made up a part of the salary of many workers in the US.

    Of course, all these observations could be totally off the mark!

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